Member of Parliament, Rajeev Chandrashekhar interacted with the readers of rediff.com today on the 2G scam. Here is the transcript:
IndianBrat asked, What is your opinion in bringing out the Radia Tapes in Public domain. Let people decide what happens behind the curtains & decide who is guilty?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, ive already commented on ths in public. i believe that the Radia tapes are not about privacy at all. they are evidence of the rot and corruption in politics, policy capture and regulatory capture that is prevailing in Delhi.. these tapes must start a debate on how we can create a new form of GOvernment by ushering in Governance reforms ..based on principles of transparency and accountability ..and not on lobbying and shadowy deal making!
Rattantata asked, Rajiv, I think that there is no scam. If Govt would have charged, the amount 1,76,000 Cr to Telecom Cos, they would have squeezed the money from telecom consumers. Moreover, that amount would have been wasted by Ministers, Bureocrats & local politicians. I think first time in India, the consumer is benefitted by Govt policy. What is your opinion?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, this is a good question..and is used always to make an argument against bidding! but the answer is simple.. Look at the real examples..Vodafone spent $10 billion to buy Telecom company in India and their tariffs are the same.. The best way to ensure low prices is to ensure competition.! look at the 3G licenses – they were auctioned and they cost a large amout.. but the service is still at 66ps/minute.. I agree that there is a larger question that the money in the Government is not spent wisely.. for eg in recent meeting with Finance Minister I asked him how come the deficit is still at 5.5% even after he received 1,00,000 Crores from the 3g/BWA auctions… but the fact is that when a nation gives its assets (spectrum, mines, land) to private interests, it must do so only when it realizes the maximum benefit for government and people they serve.
mmm asked, hi rajeev…. dont u feel scared of ratan tata
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, no I am not ! as long as you have truth on your side, no one needs to be afraid.! i am not even intimidated by the mudslinging and personal slander that comes my way when i do this.!
raj123 asked, Today someone has said that the seat in the Rajya Sabha goes to the highest bidder… Your take on this, Sir…
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, its often the case..unfortunately..! therefore i agree that we must rexamine the role and need of the Rajya sabha completey
mahendra asked, r u trying 2 be julian(wikilinks) of india?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i hope i dont go to jail like him …just for spotlighting the truth 🙂
jainjain asked, Why not every one talk about scams during BJP? the president of national party have been caught on tv taking bride. why BJP dont do enquiry on that?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, well..i hv spoken up about scams regardless of which government.. thats the advantage of being an independent MP. i take my independent MP status quite seriously ! i have spoken out against land scams in Karnataka as well scams in Spectrum.. Corruption isnt about politics..its about good governance and the relation between citizens and Governments.
shekharonline1 asked, whats ur say on Wikileaks?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i think wikileaks and other whistleblowers do play an important role.. of revealing to the people details about government activities… for example in india we have RTI that has put a lot of pressure on government to become more transparent. in 2001 when we fought the government in courts, whenever we sought documents, government could refuse citing privilege and official secrets act.. The RTI has changed that.. similarly wikileaks has changed government conduct permanently i think!
shekharonline1 asked, whats ur say on Wikileaks?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i think wikileaks and other whistleblowers do play an important role.. of revealing to the people details about government activities… for example in india we have RTI that has put a lot of pressure on government to become more transparent. in 2001 when we fought the government in courts, whenever we sought documents, government could refuse citing privilege and official secrets act.. The RTI has changed that.. similarly wikileaks has changed government conduct permanently i think!
anandmajethia asked, What would happen if the licenses are cancelled? Would it be a loss for the one who purchased from non-eligible companies? or would it be ultimate loss for non-eligible company as govt. can seal their bank accounts and confiscate assets ?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, cancellation of licenses would lead to the spectrum being returned to govt and reauctioned ..! but the govt must cancel only based on law and following due process.. it must not become another occassion for someone to threaten cancelation and then take money not to cancel it! etc.
sachin asked, I think P.M. is main in any big decision how they say i dont know ? This is high command order to P.M. take money is it right?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, one of the most mystifying things in this whole embarassing scam has been the role of the Prime Minister. I believe as do most of the country that Dr SIngh is a man of impeccable honesty.. so why did he not talk to Raja and prevent him from doing this? its a question that needs answering..
ramkie asked, ITS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT MY QUESTION HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION, Respected Mr. Chandrasekhar, what is your take on the deal between the DOT on VSN with TATA and you find any glitches in that deal, and on the deal amount what tata got back and what was the value, why it was undervalued to help TATAs,
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, ramkie – this doesnt really relate to the 2G scam.. and i dont know if it was undervalued or the deal done to help ..except to say Baijal was the disinvestment secretary at that time as well.!
Ceeteeyes asked, Your open letter to Tata has brought some truth about 2G spectrum into the open. But why both of you were silent all these days? What is the whole truth behind this episode?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i hv not been silent at all.. as a matter of fact i have been pointing out to the PM (thru letters) and the political class (in Parliament) repeatedly since 2007… but its only recently that the scam has broken and grabbed the imagination of the media and public because the CAG report has proved what I hv been saying for the last 3 years..!
sundeep asked, SunielKumar this is for you…..Tatas have done a lot for this country ….more than u and this hypocrate Rajeev chandrashekar. I have seen how Tata contributed its profit to charity without publicity…..But we are indians we ditch the person who helps us and support this politicians and Rajeev. No matter what is the outcome but my salute will be for Tatas—Jai jamshedji Tata
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i agree that the Tata group has done tremendous service for our country and have always been a beacon of hope and inspiration to all of us. I have said so in my open letter and have always considered JRD a hero. I will ignore your allegation about me.but regardless of the Tatas background, the questions that I have raised relate to their recent actions of some of their companies and are no way reflective of the group. Maybe these are limited to these Telecom companies alone !!
craja asked, Dear Rajeev, What do you say about the suspected role of Mr Mahajan as a telecom minister, and favoring a special company, did that also needs to be inspected under JPC?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, why not? if all such policy hijacking is investigated, its good for the sector and maybe prevent scams in the future.
sknaa asked, Tata says even there was lot of flip-flops during NDA regime.Did Pramod Mahjan and Arun Shorie broke the rule book??WAS Tata a beneficiary then?? what is so great about Sonia claim they have taken action against corrupt.Just by asking Ashok Chavan and Kalmadi to step down doesn’t mean anything.What happened to Qotrochi??he was allowed to go scott free,is this action against corruption.
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, there was clearly a very bad policy in 2001..the infamous WLL policy! i have spoken out against that then and now. this was a blatantly discriminatory policy and was designed to allow some companies to backdoor enter Cellular without tender and at advantageous terms..! As the Financial express of today says, Tatas and other companies did benefit from ths.
rohit asked, Mr Chandrasekhar – What’s your opinion on the hoarding of spectrum by few operators in prominent circles like Mumbai & Delhi. As a MP what do you plan to do?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, hoarding of spectrum is a consequence of a very poor policy of alloting spectrum on a subscriber linked criteria.! this encourages operators to fudge their subscriber numbers.. I have said the only solution to all the problems and scams in telecom is to simply always auction spectrum
tasir asked, TATA: You parked yourself at the Taj Mahal Hotel Delhi, for several months since 2002 which was the centre of operations for you to prevent entry of VVLL Limited Mobility and CDMA as well as to interact with the polity and bureaucracy and with other operators to forge telecom policy of your choice. You did this in your own capacity as also as President of COAI. You also constantly solicited support of CII. Please respond to the allegations of TATA
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, what i did then was as president of coai was to fight for our rights – against a GOvernment WLL policy that was discriminatory…! how did we fight it? we fought by going to court .. TDSAT and supreme court.! Going to court and seeking a protection of rights is a fundamental right of every citizen. As a matter of fact, its the correct way to fight the government – instead of using shady lobbyists and cutting shady deals in delhi. I am personally proud of what we did then ..which is bravely fight the government with legal means.!
manoj_dawra asked, Hello Chandrashekar ji Congratulations on taking on some big fellows.do you think that this whole issue of corruption is just being used as a smoke screen by the govt to pass some major deals with major powers
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, thanks.. but it needs for all of you to also speak out against corruption ..whoever is responsible.. there cannot be holy cows or double standards or hypocrisy!
Gopinath asked, Dear Mr.Rajeev, So do you belive only one person Raja is accountable for scam? If not then whom all should we punish?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, no i dont believe that Raja is only accoutable. Raja couldnt do this without the collaboration of two types of people – first the corporates that benefitted and second the bureaucrats and regulators who helped the minister do this
Adi asked, Do you think JVC can do anything better than the current investigations that are going on?We have lost some 146 Crore due to hung parliament so it seems opposition is not concerned about the financial losses.Not allowing the parliament to run is a corruption in itself
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, u mean a JPC… i believe that a JPC is the best and quickest way to get to the bottom of this crime.! in any event if the most of the opposition want it , it would seem like its the best thing for the government to do. Since its the govt thats going to be under investigation!
shekharonline asked, whats a next option from a voter’s point of view… ? how the civilians should see this ( & latar ) forget this? whats ur say on the “chalta hain” attitude?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, the chalta hain attitude is what is encouraging this to continue ..and it seems that we have scams everywhere. we must understand that the reason we dont have suffiient hospitals, schools and even today almost 500 million indians live in abject poverty is not because we are a poor country..its because so much of the government money and resources get either looted or frittered away wastefully…
manoj asked, Hi, Have your company BPL mobile was rejected spectrum allocation during this 2G Fiasco?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i have no financial interest in Telecom at all.. I left telecom in 2005 ..and currently am a MP who understands this sector better than most and wants to clean it up and prevent scams in the future..
akp asked, doesnt raja helped in bringing down the rates to 1 paisa. otherwise your bpl was selling it Rs 16 a min
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, ive publicly acknoledged this before.. one of the consequences of Rajas policy actions was that he broke the cartel that was operating between the four GSM operators by introducing competition..!
venuvenkat asked, Hi Rajeev, Is there a way to get license from Government of India without going thru lobbyist? Even if there is bidding, I’m sure there would be leaks on the bis of competitors if you manage to bribe the minister or babus. How did you get license when yo used to run BPL Telecom?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, all cellular licenses until 2001 were only possible through tenders. its for the first time in 2003 that these licenses were started to be given away without tenders.. pls read the front page article in Financial express of this morning to understand when and who caused this change..
SelvaSK asked, Dear Mr. Rajeev, first off I am proud of you as a Bangalorean who has taken a great step towards a corrupt free India. Kudos to you! We youngsters are always ready to support you for all your battles against corruption. My question for you is: Should we all form a party-less union all over India, under your leadership and fight the elections against both BJP and Congress. We should concentrate all city centers where educated people will understand our stand and vote for our union. Please become our leader and help us take India forward.
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i know a lot of people are fed up with our current political options..! but i believe that instead of forming new parties, it may be better and more practical to push the existing parties to reform and do better and be more responsive to people and think of politics as public service rather than exploitation and ‘RULING’
hari asked, I want to ask a common sense question…The structure of TATA is different from any other company. Their profit directly goes to People of India and the WORLD. Why should they will do scams. Even if they do scams, the profit goes to People.
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, tatas are like any other company.. they are also driven by profits and growth! but it was my view that they had a different value system from other corporates!
Ceeteeyes asked, Reports say corporates are nervous after Radia Tapes. PM also by way of assurance to them has called the Cabinet Secretary to submit a report on Phone tapping. Why should the corporates be nervous if they are honest?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i agree.. there is no need to be nervous if you are clean and your conscience is clear. unfortunately just like any other field, corporate sector also also its rotten apples..and some hide behind hypocrisy and sound bites. But remember also there are many good companies and entepreneurs..
reyaz asked, Dear Sir, First of all A lots of thanks for your public support. Kindly let me know why dont you ask for cancellation of all the liscence issued and take a fresh auction for the same?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, reyaz.. one of my first statements when the CAG report came out ..was the need for the government to act decisively.. to identify both the corporate beneficiaries and the political and bureacratic enablers.. and secondly to recover the money lost – by cancelling and reauctioning the spectrum if necessary!
sunielkumar asked, Sir, I must congratulate you for your open letter to ROTTEN TATA. Our govt is changing the nation to a Banana Republic. Their slogan is “BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE CORPORATE”. its unfortunate that corporates are influencing the govt policies. This incident has helped people understand better that “All media is mostly paid media” hence most are not telecasting RAADIA coverage. They want ads sponsered by them but they don’t care when they write about govts/MPs/MLAs. So what kind of checks and balences are required in the system to make media houses behave responsibly?
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i agree that the media has not been as alert to this critical issues of corportate crime… its only with the recent coming together of the CWG, Adarsh, Spectrum and karnataka land scams that media really has got into this..
Rajesh asked, why do we show incompetency in dealing with corruption, is this what we have to live with? I commend you in writing to Mr. Tata, but whatever the reputation of the TATAs, it has been sullied in the 2G scam, not sure if they have been dirty in other deals too? But for the tapes, things would not have come to light, a common citizen does not have a voice
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i agree with u ..that normal citizens dont seem to be playing a large enough role in this issue of corporate crime and nexus with politicians.. one of the most important facts that we shd realize that all crimes have victims..and in crimes like this the victims are the people and taxpayers.. these are NOT victimless crimes..corruption has people as its victims
Sri asked, Hi sri thanks for fighting aginst corruption for justice. y cnt u fight same against congress and sonia gandhi . http://janataparty.org/sonia.html so when r u writing a letter to sonia gandhi or PM on above link??
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, i am focussed on raising issues of corruption both in the state and the center.. i have done so thru both parliamentary interventions and also outside by articles and speeches … pls read the recent article in the hindustan times called the part of the sums.. its about government corruption
sundar asked, what is the actual meening of 2g spectrum
Rajeev Chandrasekhar answers, 2G spectrum is another way of referring to the radio waves that are used by cellular companies to deliver its service